Insects
Moths (Lepidoptera)
Concealer moths (Oecophoridae)
Sighting 4502225

Oecophoridae (family)

Unidentified Oecophorid concealer moth at Sheldon, QLD

Oecophoridae (family) at Sheldon, QLD - suppressed
Oecophoridae (family) at Sheldon, QLD - suppressed
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Oecophoridae (family) 13 Apr 2025 donhe
Oecophoridae (family) 13 Apr 2025 WendyEM
Merocroca automima 13 Apr 2025 WendyEM
Coesyra (genus) 31 Jul 2023 donhe
Unverified 30 Jul 2023 PJH123

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PJH123 wrote:
   1 Aug 2023
Don, Possible Coesyra cyclotoma which is describes as having “a small quadrate dark purple-fuscous spot on base of costa”, lectotype from Brisbane. Hard to find a decent image, ALA (31/07/2023) has a fine selection of species (plural) which includes a Tineidae and none of which seem to match the description. I am also not sure of the ones on the Butterfly house site, based on the original description.
donhe wrote:
   1 Aug 2023
Philobota acroplaca? Isomoralla sp. ANIC5?
ibaird wrote:
   1 Aug 2023
I cannot see how it can be P, acroplaca which is a black and wite moth, perhaps like Isomoralla sp. ANIC5 but this specimen has a much more prominent black 'çollar'. Not sure I can see a quadrate spot at the base of the costa. The shape of the boundary between yellow and brown does suggest 'Coesyra' genus to me, but there are other possibilities. This moth has striped entennae and a dark base to the palps, two features which Ialso think are also consistent with M. automima.
WendyEM wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
https://bold-au.hobern.net/specimen.php?processid=ANIAD367-11
PJH123 wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
My specimen does not have the costal bar running halfway up the forewing as per Merocroca automina (ANIC Database No. 31 061367)
WendyEM wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
the other BOLD (Hobern) ones barely or don't have the costal bar
https://bold-au.hobern.net/specimens.php?taxid=408624
ibaird wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
The shape of the boundary between yellow and brown for the outer forewing has always looked very unlike M. automima to me,
PJH123 wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
The one with the brown costal streak is misplaced, its DNA is over 10% different. I can see what Ian is saying, in the description the ground colour should go almost to the apex a dark terminal band should be rounded off at the inner margin. So not my specimen, for a good example of M. automima see https://bold-au.hobern.net/specimen.php?processid=ANIAD370-11
WendyEM wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
Thanks Ian and PJH123 I have not worked out how to read the DNA stuff. I presume the colour coding and different bin numbers means something to do with it. I have no idea of what genus this moth belongs to.
PJH123 wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
@WendyEM Wendy, I know very little myself but have works out it’s made up of four acids, adenine (A), guanine (G), cytosine (C), and thymine (T). These are the letters you see in the public data area on BOLD and look like ACAATCGTAACA---etc. A good sequence is made up of 658 of these letters. Sometimes it is only partial and have far fewer. I have made up a spread sheet which helps me compare one against the other but BOLD v5 has a Barcode ID where you can add a sequence and see what it matched.
Where it helps, the image of Endotricha approximalis, Record Details ANICC522-10 looked out of place and BOLD’s Endotricha approximalis page noted 5 specimens with barcodes in 3 Bins an indication that there could be more than one species or possibly partial DNA causing the problem. Copy the DNA sequence of Endotricha approximalis ANICC522-10 into the Barcode ID of BOLD v5 and you will see it is 100% match for 19 specimens of Endotricha mesenterialis, indicating it is misplaced in E. approximalis.
WendyEM wrote:
   13 Apr 2025
Thanks. I will have to be in a much clearer thinking state to venture into that. It is a fabulous resource and has resolved many problems.

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